Podcast Episode 103: Natalie Buger, podcaster and former healthcare manager
Content note: This episode includes discussion of assault, pregnancy loss, grief and suicide loss. Support details are at the end of these notes.
Natalie Bulger spent years as a healthcare executive, including seven years in federal healthcare for veterans in the United States, before burnout led her to step away. She now hosts the podcast Motivation N'at.
In this conversation with Melanie Suzanne Wilson, Natalie talks about what podcasting has taught her about listening, why she treats AI as a tool, and what she does now that she has left a demanding role. She also shares, in her own words, a story from when she was 17 and 18 that she kept hidden for years, and what changed when she began speaking about it.
In this episode
Podcasting as a lesson in listening, and the themes Natalie's guests keep returning to: leadership, imposter syndrome, mental health, grief and AI.
Using AI well: why Natalie checks the research AI gives her, why she gives it a persona before asking, and why she believes search engines still have a job to do.
Melanie's prompt tip of asking AI to think like a specific person, and who Natalie would choose.
Leaving federal healthcare after burning out, and the mix of fractional support, training and podcast editing Natalie does now.
Voice and speaking habits: filler words, accents, vocal fry and how the way we talk rubs off on each other.
Making space for heavy conversations, and what happens when first-time guests tell their stories.
The shower lamp: a small sensory change that Natalie calls a game changer.
The story Natalie carried from the age of 17 and 18, how it shaped her as a leader, and why she no longer rewrites it for other people.
Inside a large government agency: the mission she loved, the cost of change made without asking questions, and the grief of leaving work that matters to you.
Valuing workers, the wealth gap, and accepting that some people want to work for someone else.
Quotes from this episode
"If you don't speak it into existence, it sits in your body, and it sits there, and it's this thing that you carry that no one else knows." Natalie Bulger
"I don't have to be two different people." Natalie Bulger
"It becomes less weighted when it's not hidden." Natalie Bulger
"Friends happen when you just take away the expectations and you go talk to each other." Natalie Bulger
"Conversations like this would be something AI can't replace." Melanie Suzanne Wilson
About Natalie Bulger
Natalie Bulger is the host of Motivation N'at. A former healthcare executive, she spent seven years in the Veterans Health Administration in the United States, focusing on risk, regulatory oversight and compliance, with a background in social work and healthcare administration. She now focuses on curious exploration, the power of perspective and influence, and empowering awareness as the first step towards the best informed decision making. She describes herself as a survivor and recovering fixer.
Listen to Motivation N'at: https://www.ncbulgersolutions.com/motivation-nat-podcast
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